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California finally recognizes alternative medicine
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[ Subject: California finally recognizes alternative medicine
[ From: fidyl@yahoo.com
[ Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2004
California finally recognizes alternative medicine
By Bob Condor
Special to the Post-Intelligencer
October 25, 2004
www.healthy.net/scr/news.asp
SAN RAFAEL, CALIF. -- In 2000, Sally LaMont had a decision to make.
She was a licensed San Francisco acupuncturist with a thriving
business, vice president of the California Association of
Naturopathic Physicians and, no small thing, mother of a 1-year-old.
Something had to give in her busy schedule.
LaMont took an unconventional path. She quit her acupuncture practice
to become the first and only full-time employee of the naturopathic
physicians association.
"I realized that somebody needed to do it," said LaMont, who
moderated a couple of "ecological medicine" panels at the 15th annual
Bioneers conference in this northern California town earlier this
month. The Bioneers gathering, 3,500 strong, focuses on how nature
can solve the world's ills, global and personal.
Trained as a naturopathic physician, LaMont could not legally perform
a Pap smear, prescribe the occasional antibiotic or carry out other
medical doctor's duties. That's why she turned to acupuncture,
completing the necessary courses and practice time to become
licensed.
Here in Washington, naturopathic doctors (or N.D.s) are licensed to
practice and carry out medical duties. N.D.s, on the whole, offer the
unique quality of knowing more about plant medicine for patients than
any set of health practitioners. Oregon has a similar N.D. law, but
California has been a notable West Coast exception.
Passing the bill in California, which became law this year, doubles
the number of Americans with access to naturopathic physicians.
Fourteen states now license N.D.s, while another 14 have some
legislative activity in process.
An important point here: Naturopathic physicians are distinguished
from "naturopaths" in these state laws. Naturopath is shorthand among
patients for N.D.s, but naturopathic physicians themselves are quick
to define the difference.
"In California, we had to leave the term 'naturopath' in the public
domain," explained LaMont, who has stepped down as executive director
and is contemplating her next full-time professional move. "There are
people who call themselves naturopaths but haven't attended the
(five) accredited naturopathic medicine schools.
"For example, after one of my talks (at Bioneers), a man approached
me about getting his N.D. license, but it turned out he had a
divinity degree. He didn't have the years of training required for
the license."
Bastyr is one of four accredited U.S. schools for naturopathic
medicine; another one is in Canada.
The California N.D. license also requires passing a written exam. The
license allows practitioners to call themselves N.D.s, doctors of
naturopathy, doctors of naturopathic medicine and licensed
naturopathic doctors. Any practitioner not licensed using these
titles will be breaking the law.
Some 150 naturopathic physicians in California are grateful for
LaMont's decision to forgo her acupuncture practice and immerse
herself in opposition to Big Medicine lobbyists. She played an
integral role in the successful enactment of the bill, which was
signed into law by former Gov. Gray Davis. His replacement, Arnold
Schwarzenegger, recently named the first five members to a
nine-person state advisory council, including Carl Hangee-Bauer, N.D.
and Bastyr University alum. The law was several years in the making.
"I felt confident when the bill made it through the first committee
in the state assembly," said LaMont. "I knew then we would make it
law. The bill was eventually passed with 90 percent votes for it on
the general floor."
LaMont credited Kenmore-based Bastyr officials with supporting the
cause, including the hosting of a visit from members of the
California Medical Association representing medical doctors or M.D.s.
By all accounts, the visit was a success.
"One of the huge challenges for naturopathic physicians is that the
typical M.D. opinion of us is about 50 years out of date," said Joe
Pizzorno, N.D., and Bastyr president emeritus. "The members of the
California Medical Association that visited us arrived with polite
skepticism -- and they were polite -- but they came away impressed
with the quality of our facilities and faculty. They were equally
impressed with the depth of our subject matter and academic rigor."
While those M.D.s were hesitant to completely flip on the licensure
issue, Pizzorno said "they went from hard opposition to soft
opposition."
"It is actually pretty rare for someone in the conventional medicine
field to visit us at Bastyr and not be impressed," said Pizzorno, who
was closely involved in lobbying efforts on behalf of naturopathic
physicians in California.
What's more, Bastyr offered the expertise and man-hours of its senior
counsel, Sandi Cutler, a longtime Bastyr official who previously
managed political campaigns (about 80) in northern California. Both
Cutler and David Matteson, Bastyr director of governmental relations,
received 2003 President's Awards from the American Association of
Naturopathic Physicians for their efforts.
Plus, the Seattle natural medical school contributed some funds to
the cause. "It is a huge sacrifice for N.D.s to take time away from
their practices," said Pizzorno. "We wanted to support that."
For its part, Bastyr is exploring partnership in integrative medicine
clinics in both northern and southern California. Pizzorno said the
idea is to build a patient flow before the subsequent step of
starting a naturopathic medicine school or campus in California.
Bastyr is in talks with several mainstream big-name medical schools
to partner on the academic front. The academic concept is to provide
N.D. degrees and continuing professional education for health
practitioners.
"I would definitely attend classes if Bastyr has a campus in northern
California," said Prashanti de Jager, a San Anselmo-based
practitioner of ayurvedic medicine and founder of an organic,
socially responsible medicinal herb company in India that has allowed
hundreds of farmers to stop using chemicals on their lands. In kind
with its fascinating and cutting-edge subject matter, it is not
surprising that de Jager was another presenter at the Bioneers
conference (check out www.bioneers.org).
"There are lots of people in California excited about licensing for
N.D.s," said LaMont, who will teach a course in naturopathic medicine
at San Francisco State's Institute for Holistic Studies in the
spring. "It certainly drew big cheers at my two sessions."
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markd@toad-net.com wrote:
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Henriette
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"Jan" <jdrew63929@aol.com>the logic leaping liar and Jew, Catholic, etc.
hater wrote in message news:20041104191001.08102.00000093@mb-m05.aol.com...
not the bullshit one you implanted:
www.quackwatch.org/index.html
That is where the real truth can be found.
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"Henriette Kress" <spamtrap.hetta@spamcop.net>wrote in message
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"Henriette Kress" <spamtrap.hetta@spamcop.net>wrote in message
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On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 22:37:55 GMT, usenet@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
wrote:
RR
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Das Recht auf körperliche Unversehrtheit DER OPFER wiegt höher als das
erlogene Recht der kriminellen Psychopathen auf ihr "Recht" zum
Verbreiten lebensgefährlicher Lügen.
(Aribert Deckers in d.s.m.m.)
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<< Now, Jan, you are being dishonest here. Shame on you. The OP had this URL,
not the bullshit one you implanted:
www.quackwatch.org/index.html
That is where the real truth can be found.>><BR><BR>
Ha...Ha..Ha.now that's really funny....you would think that the jerk (and his
supporters that hang out here) could find a more honorable thing to do with
their time than try to debunk alternative medicine or health practices that he
and his friends duly think are "quack" practices...
The funny thing is that more and more people (and professionals in the
healthcare field) are finding out more and more about the alternatives that
this website pokes fun of, and realizing that they are good for their patients.
The way the world is going these days, I bet you will find quackwatch going to
pot, because of all of the hogwash opinions will slowly but surely be proven
that they work...
Then..what is he going to do with his time? :>)
"If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well dance." (Jessie Winchester).
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In article <crbmo0tfkihaiqnpetmv6tvju2ekdrpu3k@4ax.com>,
Henriette Kress <fix.hetta@spamcop.net>wrote:
they're doomed.
-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)
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Stephen Barrett, M.D.
Quackwatch, Inc., which was a member of Consumer Federation of America from
1973 through 2003, is a nonprofit corporation whose purpose is to combat
health-related frauds, myths, fads, and fallacies. Its primary focus is on
quackery-related information that is difficult or impossible to get elsewhere.
Founded by Dr. Stephen Barrett in 1969 as the Lehigh Valley Committee Against
Health Fraud,
Nothing about Health Fraud within coventional medicine.
Docs can kill people, and remain on staff.
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"DEBBEE1023" <debbee1023@aol.comnojunk>wrote in message
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<< Find a cure for what ails you.
medicine...it works...
"If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well dance." (Jessie Winchester).
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"DEBBEE1023" <debbee1023@aol.comnojunk>wrote in message
thinking that you are well, is "working".
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<< I see, so you claim that causing delusions, e.g. imaginary friends and
thinking that you are well, is "working".
"delusions", but I will tell you what, Probert, you need to seek help for this,
and other stories you have told here. You have no idea who I know, where I
live, and if you do, you have crossed over the line with a privacy issue, and
you will need to reveal what you know about my private life which is not your
business.
"If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well dance." (Jessie Winchester).
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"DEBBEE1023" <debbee1023@aol.comnojunk>wrote in message
As i have told you time and again, I use the term "imaginary friend' to
describe that person you mention whenever your argument seems a bit weak,
and you need some support. I do not know if they exist, or not, but, the
ploy is well known, and you use it poorly.
setting off metal detectors, etc.
irrelevant to me, and, frankly, I wonder what strawman you will raise next.
and if you do, you have crossed over the line with a privacy issue, and
infer that from your behavior and your attitude here.
As for me having to reveal anything, sure. You are again being delusional.
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<< As i have told you time and again, I use the term "imaginary friend' to
describe that person you mention whenever your argument seems a bit weak,
and you need some support.>><BR><BR>
And you use the 'sock puppets' here quite well. It is a weak argument on your
behalf when you make up stuff, and it is common knowledge that you attempt to
go on "fishing trips" around this ng, and no one here is biting on your
bait...no one likes stink bait, and you smell, Marla Maples!!
<<
Some of the things you claim certainly sound delusional, e.g. 400 platelets,
setting off metal detectors, etc.
<< Debbee, you have no idea who I know, and, you do not want to know.
really capable of doing. I do not care who you know...I happen to have a lot
of resources in my back pocket....and I'm not afraid to call on them....most of
them are government related.
<<
Frankly, I do not care if you live in the Ritz, or in a cave. It is utterly
irrelevant to me, and, frankly, I wonder what strawman you will raise next.
<< I know that your private life does not provide you with much enjoyment. I
infer that from your behavior and your attitude here.>><BR><BR>
I have a very happy life. I do what I want to do, and stay within the law. I
am not the one seeking and craving attention here, and nor do I care what your
opinion is of me because you are again, very WRONG about who I am, and what I
am capable of doing. Kind of like that saying, "Don't Mess With Texas".
<< As for me having to reveal anything, sure. You are again being delusional.
paint of yourself, is not the one that the "shadows know"...
"If you're gonna walk on thin ice, you may as well dance." (Jessie Winchester).
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"DEBBEE1023" <debbee1023@aol.comnojunk>wrote in message
It is a weak argument on your
claims lack.
you. I know Halloween is over and you had all the fright you can handle.
You have no clue who I really am, nor what I am
flatulence.
causing a problem.
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volumes about what you are capable of doing, Lil Doobie.
or the Lunacy board.
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